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Xtract
Hive Bee
posted 12-27-1999 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xtract     
It was an old book long ago gone but was very easy to make will have to go over to old girlfreins home and get my old law books . But could one just use this to meth with one of the contraditional methods ummmm like methylation or something sorry if this is off topic but I havent been sleepy for lack of eXtraction of my damn pills. sorry

Blanka
Hive Bee
posted 12-27-1999 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blanka     
methylnation of amphetamine is possible
(search engine) it's out there

Xtract
Hive Bee
posted 12-27-1999 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xtract     
One of the easiest ways to make methamphetamine is from amphetamine. Of

course, this assumes you have amphetamine in the first place, but let's

just pretend you have some and you want to spice it up a bit.

The difference between amphetamine and methamphetamine is the addition of

a single methyl group (CH3) to the amino group sticking off the middle

carbon atom in the chain. Fortunately, substituting amines is really

simple. Vaporize your amine (your amphetamine) with a bunch of vaporized

chloromethane (CH3Cl, a solvent) and some gaseous pyridine...

voila, the amino group takes the methyl from the chloromethane and lets a

hydrogen go. The hydrogen joins the liberated chlorine, and the resulting

HCl is soaked up by the pyridine. The pyridine is optional. Adding it

drives the reaction a bit by pulling the excess HCl out of the equation,

but it's not neessary.


maybe this would be better.

Xroid
NewBee
posted 12-27-1999 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xroid     
I think you maybe should back to school pal. Were here to make crystal meth not fuckinbg amphameth. Im changing my name to not X you bastaards are ruining this place lets see some production outta ya. what have you cum with nothing???

masking
unregistered
posted 12-27-1999 09:46 AM           
apparently the wrong solvent heheh

Um welll see here we need to um well its a biger picture it seems that when the sulph if not driven of by the complexing compounding with the haloid balancing the reaction at welll to umm yes if driven off this clorine shit it wachs the h2s04 turning this into something that attacks the nitrogen part bummer hummm yes and this possibly strips off the nitro atrtachment suckwa do????

Then if the nitro gasses of and is gona supper sukwa

Finally is left to its own in seemingly mixed solvent /wawa water it seems to be um better adding some salt some aluminum chips of it and floating a bit of 111 tricloro seems to work in my dream to at least free the shit of the h2s04, now this would be a mixture of solvent for shure, having must have water int here for the acid to go into and the nitro is not let to escape the thing the only thing that might work is adding co, but what do I know>>>> wont CH=Cclclclc, um I see ya can goof it up prety easy hummm

well what the hell is the 111 good for then? the aluminium I am imagining help?

I am thinking even more or less salt might in fact be a working model and as for a drop allready there as for the cloride salt of it hummm it work in theory????

I am wondering if the thing is mean to self destruct sacraficing possibly one of two to four carbocations upon that nitro and the sulp sdalt ?

LloYd
NewBee
posted 12-27-1999 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LloYd     
I think what she meant was a Hcl salt better than a sufate to reduce and methlate Quit hassling each other .

Wizard X
PimpBee
posted 12-27-1999 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wizard X     
Xtract: If you can get amphetamine sulphate, then you are 99% there. If you aren't sure how to amino methylate, then LEAVE IT as is.
SEARCH ENGINE OK!

This is coming close to a CLOSED THREAD ! Be more informative, NOT just ramble on. First and Final warning.

Xaja
Hive Bee
posted 12-27-1999 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xaja     
Amphetamine is OK. It's a good buzz, pretty much meth, you just can't cut it as much, cause it's not as strong.

Xtract
Hive Bee
posted 12-29-1999 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xtract     
Hey it was an honest question we were looking for any possible differances in methylating Amphetamine HCl, vs. Sulphate , vs. phosphate K ? wow...

Incendiary Mortar Magnify
Hive Bee
posted 12-29-1999 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Incendiary Mortar Magnify     
well I have found a new method for extraction it appears, but I am not over joyas as the prospect now must be umm grusemly tested yuk~yuk

Going to try a doubley good idea and try to crystalize some pseudostuff but man I allready got amine stuff, though it could be h2s04 crstals I just aint shure about them chem books to dam general they ussually dont deal w/ something so specific

Cheapskate
Hive Bee
posted 01-12-2000 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheapskate     
Xtract, could you post the method you found for amphetamine sulphate....please. There may be objections and rantings, but who cares?? Information is information. I for one would love to try this synthesis.

Wizard X
PimpBee
posted 01-12-2000 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wizard X     
Xtract: the warning was not completely directed at you. It was directed at "masking". I think from now on I will direct the warning at particular bees.

Methylating agents: methyl iodide, dimethyl sulphate, formaldehyde/formic acid.

Xtract
Hive Bee
posted 01-12-2000 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xtract     
Will do Cheapo it will take a few days. Im not sure the recipe is any easier than any other but we will find out over.

One for you did you give up on H2O2/Cat ?

Did you ever try pressure?

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